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Kellon's Sketchbook

Postby kvSketch » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:38 pm

Yooo, I'm Kellon. I made this sketchbook almost 2 years ago now O_o. Stupid story short, I stopped drawing seriously for a while. I'm back and I want to improve, so I'm going to start updating this sketchbook again.
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*(OLD) Here's some stuff to give you an idea where I'm at atm. The gestures are 1 minute each from posemaniacs (any other suggestions for gesture?). I struggle with getting form/perspective quickly but I'll work on that :D. Next is a proportion study and an anatomy study. Throw in a digital portrait too. Sorry if my sketchbook stuff is bad quality I just got a scanner and just kinda throw things on there w/o really knowing what I'm doing (it's pretty small too). My lines are bad (working on it) but the scanner makes them look worse or maybe it just reveals how bad they really are! LAST some imagination poop
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby ErnieTheMighty » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:48 pm

woah some nice stuff here!

i love the second one :D
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby matthew » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:31 am

Welcome!
Good job on the gestures. Interestingly your lines are much better here. I guess that's due to the time limit.
I see you're working with Andrew Loomis books. That's good. He's definitely a good guide to bring structure
to your figure drawing exercises. Keep posting as much as you can! :)
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby sachsapne » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:55 am

sweet sketches dude, try keeping imagination stuff parallel. Doing even 1 little sketch is more than enough. It will tell you where to focus on C: Keep posting!
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:54 pm

Sach - I'll try and do that more actively now. Usually for Bridgeman anatomy studies I typically copy and observe the anatomy then try to draw the same image from imagination. After doing gestures, I'll do quick imagination gestures too :D

mattew - Thanks! Yeah, I think I'm more than capable of nice clean lines, but I have a bad habit of redoing the same line over and over. I'm trying to stop it. Loomis is the man, I've been studying his heads for a while and lately have started figures.

erniethemighty - thanks, yeah I like how the guy in the glasses turned out :)

More stuff, I was kinda lazy b/c fireworks... >_> yeah just that... Anyway whipped out 100 more 60 second gestures from posemaniacs. They're getting easier and some of them I finish before the time ends but I still have a long ways to go in terms of seeing form and correct proportions. 4 or so untimed figure doodles from ref, anatomy study (with my real arm too), and I'll throw in a still life.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby Zhene » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:23 pm

YAHHHHHHH You crazy. Man I enjoyed some fireworks as well but I was much lazier than you!
Sach already recommended some imaginatoin stuff which I second. Your studies are good too. Im doing gestures tooo too
These are basic comments until I can see more stuff <3 <3
Please crit me crit me hard.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:59 am

Zhene - Thanks man, I'm doing the imagination stuff now :3. I'm planning on starting to do more digital imagination sketches because I really blow hard at those right now. After I gesture draw now, I do about 5-10 imagination gestures just to see what proportions and poses are don't understand. Don't worry I'll start posting poopy imagination stuff soon and you can crit those :D.

I decided to go at 2-3 minute gestures on bodies in motion to try and get form and proportions more correct. Mostly fails but I think I'll do these along with my 1 minutes now. In addition, I did some imagination gestures after. My understanding of feet is terrible I'm gonna do some studies of those tomorrow :/. Also did a mountain study first one I've done, I thought it was gonna be booooring but I enjoyed painting it and trying out brushes. I slaughtered the clouds but I wasn't focusing on them. Last, old ms color study.

Sorry about my lines bet you guys are going wtf...at my line quality. I'm gonna actually slow down stuff tomorrow and try to get better lines
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:19 pm

101 more gestures today, I was having one of those days when you're just frustrated with everything. I did about 1.5 hours of feet studies but will post the tomorrow when I have some more. Quick still life as well. My imagination poses suck O_O. I really have to think about the pose first.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby V3T » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:05 am

If you are 17 years of age and still have two years of highschool left, you are going to be doing really well by the time you graduate!
For your imagination poses, do them in stick figure gestures first and then construct on top of it. Something I picked up from Tehmeh.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:39 am

V3T - For sure! Except when school starts I can't draw as much, but this year I'm going to but more effort into that. Thanks for the advice too, I'll try using stick figures before hand now :D.

Did about 80 poses today? 60 60 second gestures (posemaniacs) and about 20 2-4 minute gestures from videos (i'm going to start to keep count so I started at 202 today because of the 101 I did in the last 2 days). They're still flat for the longer ones, but I think I'm getting better at 60 second ones O___O seeing form a bit betterish. Did foot studies some from bridgeman and some from my own foot. Imagination sketch, and quick self portrait which I should do more of.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby vinegarcat » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:14 pm

Hey pal! Your studies are looking really really good! I agree that the lines in your gestures are excellent, and I'm sure you've heard it before but break them down into shapes! I can see you started to do more of that in your more recent gestures, and at the pace you're going you'll see improvement in no time. Keep it up!!
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:25 am

vinegarcat - I'm hoping I can start connecting my lines soon too haha. Oh for sure, I try to really use shapes for the slower ones usually they're not apparent because I do them very lightly, but I'll start considering them when doing the 1 minute ones too.

I shamefully procrastinated today, I only got about 4 hours of drawing done. I'm currently really avoiding digital imagination sketches and need to work harder to get those done. Anyway, I did about 30 gestures today to warm up but I'm too tired to post them -___-. Anyway, I did some celeb quick sketch portrait to just to practice getting likeliness which I kinda failed on... I know Andrew Loomis says not to, but I think they're good for practicing proportions and quick stuffzzz. A quick imagination sketch rushed it but I think I'm finally getting a bit betterish...
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:27 am

Think I'm seeing form a bit better and I need to do more imagination digital sketches mine are so bad right now :(. BTW does anyone know how to get files under 512 kb saving w/photoshop. I can't seem to do it and I've been using the snipping tool to post my digital stuff...ha...ha...
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby Luna » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:04 am

many draw~~~ o(∩_∩)o 哈哈
I Start understand you trying to achieve the thousand of gestures~~ ^_^
if those gestures are not from life draw, even nicer with each of your little babies~XX
Also I see you put more confident lines for them, that's really nice! o(∩_∩)o
keep rocking, dear kvSketch! (^_^)∠※
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby matthew » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:30 am

Regarding the file size:
It really depends on the pixel dimensions. Don't make them too big. Personally I usually don't post
anything that is more than 900px wide.
Also, with digital paintings you will get lower file size with .jpg than with .png, I think. In case that's
not enough, you can still reduce the jpeg quality.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:37 am

another 100 gestures and some stuff from my sketchbook. My motivation was zapped today. At 500 gestures though! Anyway, they were sloppy today, and I think I'm just copying them not analyzing and understanding the poses and flow. Will begin working on that tomorrow!
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby dynamiter0ll » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:18 am

your have great color studies, push that skill to the max
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby Samszym » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:54 am

Ha nice dude, I was gonna crit that you should analyze for motion and pose more in your gestures, looks like you already figured it out though!
Looks like you did a few drawings from a soccer/football game in the last post, I would definitely recommend you KEEP DOING THAT. Sports gestures are so great because you have context for the pose, you know what its purpose is and what poses come before and after it. Knowing the purpose and story of the pose gives you a goal to achieve,a way to tell if your gesture is successful or not because you will either have told the story with the drawing or made a confusing sketch. That's why I caution you to avoid posemaniacs and other timed gesture sites, their poses are all weird artsy stances that nobody in real life ever makes, so there's not much to learn from drawing from them imo. I'd recommend drawing from old vaudeville/silent era movies as well if you can, guys like charlie chaplin and buster keaton were masters of telling the story through their poses.

Keep doing the gestures and focus on quality not quantity. If I find a pose I really like I may wind up drawing it 7 times to try and really capture what I like about it. It's not a race to draw 1,000 different gestures, it's about how much you can learn.Try to ignore details and anatomy, you can make a very successful gesture with just a circle for the head, a stretched and squashed line for the torso, and 4 bendy tube shapes for the limbs.

There are a couple books by a disney animator named Walt Stanchfield called Drawn To Life you may want to pick up, they're full of tips and handouts from his gesture classes and they're a huge help!
http://www.amazon.com/Drawn-Life-Classe ... 0240810961

and looking at storyboard artist's gestures would be great too, those guys are awesome!
http://mattjonezanimation.blogspot.com/search?q=gesture
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pangolins are pretty cool
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:21 am

Samsyzm - O__O that's why I joined this forum, thank you. I'll try to stop relying on posemaniacs now, but I think the only reason I'll keep working from there is because some of the poses have weird perspectives which helps me a bit seeing form. If there is an alternative to practice this please tell me. I actually did draw from Charlie Chaplin movie which was great fun and it does help because there is purpose to all the poses. Thank you, I'll keep everything you said in mind.

dynamiter0ll - TOO THE MAX!!! I need to do master studies more I feel like my perception of color really improved after doing a lot of those. And, thank you :D.

Cranked out only 60 posemaniacs gestures and did some Chaplin and volleyball gestures :3. I really tried to understand the poses today. I'm starting to focus on if I'm getting the feeling/action right rather than "is this angle right? Can I finish this in time?" Anyway, I did a study of a knight again and I didn't have time to make an imagination doodle painting :(. I'll do that first thing tomorrow though!
My imagination sketches remind me that I need to start working on anatomy & perspective again...whoops.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:03 pm

Gesture, anatomy, and some imagination. Currently working on a painting from imagination, It's not turning out good but hopefully after...a thousand or so I'll be good at it haha.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby Luna » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:02 am

Your color study that armor is very nice~
And I like all the eyes sketches~! :P
actually all the sketch are good, you also good for lines, aren't you!
Keep drawing! x working hard together! ^_^
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby karantina » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:40 am

keep drawing and ı m jealous of your ambition :) take care your hands and dont give up pencils, dont be hurry for digital. ı will watch you:)
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:00 am

Luna - Thanks, sadly, I can't paint like that from imagination yet D:. The gap between studies and imagination is too large! atleast digitally.

Karatina - Thanks. Have plenty of ambition but not a very good work ethic :P. I won't stop using pencil for sure but I gotta make sure my digital work doesn't lag too far behind.

Did an imagination piece digitally...must...improve. Another armor study, horrible hands, gestures, and life hands. Any crits on my digital imagination sketch would be welcomed.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:38 pm

draw draw draw
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:06 pm

More stuff, the anatomy today was rather tedious today D; and I need to start studying more a day.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:24 pm

more gestures, anatomy, imagination. Did a digital portrait from imagination, I think the main problem was I don't understand how skin works too much and I rush the drawing D:.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby AnimeFan » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:37 pm

Lookin p good! But remember to put the studies to use! If you never draw a hand or figure outside a study you'll forget all the knowledge! Studies are classtime, and imagination is homework.
Figures are lots better already, but do some longer ones! It's amazing how fast you'll start to pick out muscles under the skin while you're doing anatomy studies. I was shocked at just how wiggly legs are personally.
Also are those hands in your last post from life? Cause they're like way ahead of the hands in the post before that.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby Luna » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:07 pm

o(∩_∩)o 哈哈 Here a so many draw!!!
You are a diligent person! I like that! xx
Keep working hard! Your figures lines are small, but look carefully are confidence way, so I believe it's a right way to go! :P
(And keep working on color as well, not quite right yet~)
xx
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby kvSketch » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:15 pm

Luna - Thank you, your very diligent too! Work hard erryday. Yeah, I use a 7mm mechanical pencil should I use a normal pencil for gestures?

Animefan - I will :3. I guess most of the time I don't draw hands out of laziness and not fear, but good for calling me out i'll start doing it. And yes, the hands were from life. I noticed that they looked better too, idk what happened lol. They took about the same amount of time. I started focusing on the form and proportions more maybe that did :D.

I'm trying to change my sleep pattern, so I can wake up earlier to go to the gym and draw more. Today was tough so sleepy. No digital, I honestly didn't want to stare at my monitor for 4 hours today. My sketchbook was pretty baaad today. I need to start figures more light and feel the form more because the bodies look ridiculous. Also my failed attempt at foreshortening lol it was mostly a rushed mistake.
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Re: kvSketch wants to keep drawing

Postby Kitty Sincula » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:25 am

you have a good sense of space and color, gg keep working!
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