Havent painted :/
Wow, so many comments! It pumps me but also sucks off the will lol, i've got this pretty often if someone write a critique. On the one side im very happy for it and on the other it feel like i didnt worked enough and i am again at the beginning. It delivers both, happines and sadness, dunno why :)
I've revisited the the roots which was the gesture drawing for 30-60seconds, i've done them almost every day in the first months when i started learning to draw and they helped alot, so it's time to use the advantage of it again.
That thing with the imagination is so complex that i dont know exactly how to describe it with the correct words, maybe it's because i still dont have it enough clear in my head, but, what've i found is that if i know very well the object im into draw from my mind, i can to draw it and almost from any angle. The more information i know about the object i want to draw from mind, the easier it is.
The problem with the anatomy right now is the overal forms of the muscles i am learning. From the anatomy book, i cant absorb, see the muscles as i would in real life. If i had the chance to hold and see all the muscles of the femur, the information would be more valuable and it would be more effectice learning. With the book, i only see the muscles and theirs attachament, that's all i can learn, after that, i must work with storage of images (muscles) and puting it together, it's like puzzle where you pick random pieces and searching for the correct ones, but in more hardcore way..
Solutions: Get many references as i can, stick with them, study and fill the mind with the informations, after time it will get star to sumarize in the head and things are going to happen and i will start to understand bit by bit, hope. Finding a good zbrush anatomy model with detachable muscles for deeper explorations and understanding. (Have found this one, and it's pretty awesome! http://www.visualarium.com/anatomy-male-figure/
you can hide-unhide invidual muscles, dope! :)Telohs: Always try to think about what you're doing when drawing from imagination. I sometimes tend to just shut down my brain when doodeling, not a good idea.
I know that very well, it's incredible annoying, whnever i try to draw seomthing from mind and i have no idea what i am after, it will not work. (We draw with the mind, not with the hand and so the thinking matters) I've found it helps alot if you do first thumbnail sketching and maybe before the thumbnail you write for yourself a analyzation (story) of what it should be and after that you start thumbnailing your ideas and when you'll find one with enough information, go for more detailed drawing and it should be alot easier and work. When drawing mechas, i never know at the start what i want them to look, so they start with doodling and progressing up. You can also use advantage of the lineweight, use very light-touch for doodling and when an idea pop up from random sketch, go progressively up adding more defined forms and weight.
Everyone one of us is from time to time hypocritical, i think it's because we cant keep our focus on all ways of thinking modes at once even if we try to. After time our mind will get tired and will want to drop from some, but they will still remain in us and will evolve, even if you dont use them so often ;) Tastenkasten:
Thanks man :) I agree with you, that's why i didn't wanted to start with the painting before having a strong fundamentals with the drawing skills or, at least good enough to be ready to jump into next phase. I can draw, but not enough to be satisfied with myself, i miss alot stuff and have still long journey before that happens ;D Also, the painting approach is very different from drawing.The line of action is something i have to revisit and re-read again!Jaikamat: never let it replace observation, otherwise things can turn too stiff
This scared me a bit lol, it's true that i dont measure as i did in the beginnings, it was because i didn't know about the structural drawing, so, i've drawed mostly by looking for angles, envelop, block-in, horizontals, verticals, diagonals. Now it's more structural, but always, when i make construction depending on the stuff that i want to draw, i will mostly measure to put stuff on the correct place. If it's drawing from mind without reference, i dont measure if i know the proportions well, but, if i use structure for drawing a selfportrait or head from reference and i want it to be exactly the same, i will measure for sure. Whenever i want something to look exactly as i see it or as it is, the measuring is important because it must have exactly the same proportions.
Thanks alot mate!Forrestimel: comfort zone, finding it hard to find time to apply the knowledge, avoiding the applying.
So true with the comfort zone, there are many things i've never tried and i would love to, copying barque drawings, or making a drawing from life by using only comparative or sight-size method, makind exact same copy of photo for better control of copying images from references, drawing only with values and so on..
When (i) is near a sketch or drawing, it was done from imagination. Before i can start draw the fully leg from imagination, i need to be sure that i can draw first the bones and then the muscles. This is pretty hardcore and i think it needs to be done slowly step by step. So, i've started with the front side where you have quadriceps,adductors and more. Next, learning theirs attachement and then i'll start to draw it from mind. When i am able to, it's time to move on to the side view and lastly back view. After all of that, it's time take the refences of the leg and drop muscles on it to test myself if i understand locations and when i do, my mind will start to understand the overall forms and it will become alot easier and maybe i will break the ice. I want to try if it will work that way. Maybe my apporach is completely wrong ;D
In the book of Drawing lessons from great masters by Robert Beverly Hale, there is Anatomy chapter where he writes: For no one can draw the figre really well unless he can draw every part of the figure, in any position, out of his imagination. You cannot really draw these things unless you can draw them out of your head.
Will do, thanks mate! ;)